Tuesday, January 1, 2008

America: Home of the Concetration Camp?

While I am quite skeptical of the following information:

Halliburton Confirms Concentration Camps Already Constructed

On February 17, 2006, in a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld spoke of the harm being done to the country’s security, not just by the enemy, but also by what he called “news informers” who needed to be combated in “a contest of wills.”

In 2002 Attorney General John Ashcroft announced his desire to see camps for U.S. citizens deemed to be “enemy combatants.”

A Defense Department document, entitled the “Strategy for Homeland Defense and Civil Support,” has set out a military strategy against terrorism that envisions an “active, layered defense” both inside and outside U.S. territory. In the document, the Pentagon pledges to “transform U.S. military forces to execute homeland defense missions in the . . . U.S. homeland.” The strategy calls for increased military reconnaissance and surveillance

The Washington Post reported on February 15, 2006 that the National Counterterrorism Center’s (NCTC) central repository holds the names of 325,000 terrorist suspects, a fourfold increase since fall of 2003. A Pentagon official said the Counterintelligence Field Activity’s TALON program has amassed files on antiwar protesters.

Shortly after Bush orchestrated 9/11, he issued "Military Order Number One", which empowered him to detain any noncitizen as an international terrorist or enemy combatant. Today that order extends to U.S. citizens as well...


... the fact remains that our liberties have been abused in more ways than one. I wouldn't be overly surprised at this point if the Feds actually did begin rounding up people for mass arrest. The way things are going now, anyone who dares to criticize government and fight for our basic, God given Constitutional rights may very well end up buying a one way ticket to a jail cell... kinda like getting married these days!

Tyranny in the family courts = tyranny at the highest levels of government. There is no difference between the two. The violation of ANY of our Natural Rights equates to a violation of them all.

Other vids that tend to support the hypothesis that FEMA "funcamps" may be the future home of many, many people:















This, ladies and gentlemen, is a serious issue that CANNOT be ignored. We the People CANNOT allow the government to even DREAM about building concentration camps for sovereign people with Inalienable rights. I shouldn't even be wasting my time by writing about the mere possibility of a massive violation of our liberties by our very own government.

If this thing plays out, I'll wager that our upcoming economic debacle will be used, pursuant to NPSD 51 and other Executive Orders, as a pretext to strip the people of their liberty and imprison all those that resist, if these camps are the real deal.

In conclusion:

The time for American people to sit on their asses and let governments State and Federal do any ol' thing they want to do is just about OVER.

It's time to get in the game.

Kumo 08.

9 comments:

harleypt said...

Yep,at this point I could really see this happening.I'm not sure if Ron Paul could even stop it if he became president.The powers have been hard at work laying the foundations of tyranny for sometime.

http://tinyurl.com/2rhefz

yy said...

What do you guys mean with "stopping" it. THey already exist. Plus you can transform stadiums and the like into detainment camps and build new ones when martial law/national emergency is called. I was reading in a book today from William Cooper - behold a pale horse. it's from 1991 and it's talking about concentration camps that are already built! 17years ago! conclusion: i wouldn't advice anyone to protest after shit has hit the fan.

if the concentration camps are new to you then you should read about their new crowd control weapons - microwaves and ELF are the names of the game - not long outdated water cannons.

Kumogakure said...

Happy New Year gang!!

There is a time for protest, and a time for laying low.

Right now, our responsibility is to call our government officials and let them know that we are NOT going to sit idly by while they systematically strip us of our freedom.

Granted, many have been asleep at the wheel. But the time for that is over with.

No matter what happens, we as men have to SPEAK out, while we still have the opportunity to do so.

As for weapons that may be used against us, it pays to do your homework and think up appropriate countermeasures...

yy said...

"No matter what happens, we as men have to SPEAK out, while we still have the opportunity to do so. "

I agree. However where I live that time is long gone. You can't call senators, you don't have weapons, there is no ron paul, the populace WANTS a big government, hell we can't even (directly) elect the EU government. god bless america - the last hope for mankind!!

tba said...

hell we can't even (directly) elect the EU government. god bless america - the last hope for mankind!!
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I still think there is hope in Europe. From what I've been reading there is A LOT of Europeans who are AGAINST the EU and want to keep their national soveraignty. Is it not so that Belgium's government has shut down over this issue? And that the French government hs to resort to trying to FORCE the EU Constitution down the french citizens' throats despite their votes of NO?

but I do agree that mankind's greatest hope on earth is america.

I'm beginning to believe that DEMOCRACY ITSELF is the reason why wer are in the situation we are in- else why do they want to force democracy down the throats of Pakistan and the Middle East? Seems like democracy and Diebold election machines allows them to put their lackeys in office while hving the air of legitimacy because an 'election' occured. It is very interesting what is going on right now in Kenya over this very issue of election fraud.

the powers that be are very smart: they have adjusted. Instead of fomenting revolutions in order to change government they simply use election fraud.

yy said...

Hmmm yes and no (about the EU issue).The rich netherland part of Belgium wants to be divided from the poorer french part I think this is the reason why the government is currently shut down over there. Netherlands and France voted against the EU constitution, other countries including mine have not been asked if they want to hand their sovereignty over to the EU illuminati lakeys. Because people voted against the EU constitution the illuminati just changed a couple of paragraphs and changed the name from constitution to something else. Now it is passed without asking the people of France and the Netherlands. I don't know if the French have a problem with the constituion having been passed under another name. French people DO go to the streets and they get violent - but usually only if it is about state pensions, state benefits,state sponsered universities and the like. Anyway you are right there is restistance in England for example but after the economic collapse the EU constituion will just be ratified and people will not know what hit them. They will have lost everything and be living in a police state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

Look under etymology. Democracy=RULE OF THE MOB. that's why there is the Bill of RIghts in America. IF people want democracy then at least let it be DIRECT democracy.

having said that can you blame democracy for tyranny. The culprit is the people, the problem is the mob. It's not democracy's fault that the majority of people are totally stupid and ignorant. That they are greedy and want everything now and not care about the future. Analogy: It is not guns who kill people, it is people who kill people. It is not democracy which causes state tyranny it is people who cause state tyranny.

After comming to the conclusion that the majority of people are stupid(in the sense of being unable to think for themselves) and ignorant one has to wonder WHY it is that way? I don't believe in accidents..we are talking about planet earth and the universe...accidents don#T happen on such a grand scale. The only logical conclusion I can come up with is because humans were designed to be that way!! smart enough to be able to do a lot of things but dumb enough to not question things. a great slave race!!

tba said...

IF people want democracy then at least let it be DIRECT democracy.
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Agreed. But until people read Aristotle's "Politics", the writings of the Founding Fathers, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and watch Michael Badnarik's "Constituion Class" I don't think most peopleare informed enough to choose a direct democracy.

A direct democracy could conceivably work but it first requries a PROPERLY informed public. The public schools don't do this and by the time students are ready to go to college they have already been molded to become sheep and ideological leftists. They get little training in the government schools on the Constitution or freedom.

Like you I get very pessimistic about the masses and I simply can't stand their sheople behavior sometimes. But to be honest, I can't blame them considering the education they received. from government schools to the media to parents who went to government schools, a child is NECK DEEP in lefist and government propaganda- so when some people come into contact with differing ideas they often reject and ridicule. Witness how Ron Paul is being treated- not only by the media, and the two political parties, but the everyday person who is a party loyalist to the two parties.

In times past, people used to pass down their country's or their tribe's history orally. IOW, they used to teach history to their children. THAT is what needs to be done- teach history, the proper structuring of society and government, and the values necessary to maintain that just, and vivil society. the relying on government schools to teach children have proved DISASTEROUS to our freedoms.

Despit my pessism about the masses waking up in time to save this country, I still believe there is hope for the masses, but they must FIRST be DE-educated from government school propaganda and they must make certain to pass down these truths to future generations.

As for YOUR country- I don't know abut that. At least Americans still remember somewhat the ideals that America was founded upon. Europe has seen so much tyranny throughout the centuries it's no shock the fact that an EU occured before an NAU.

yy said...

let me do this one in the quote-answer style

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Agreed. But until people read Aristotle's "Politics", the writings of the Founding Fathers, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and watch Michael Badnarik's "Constituion Class" I don't think most peopleare informed enough to choose a direct democracy."

Agreed. But more generally people are not informed enough to choose ANY government form or in a broader sense ANYTHING that is important. So that to me is progaganda against direct democracy(not from you but from the people who ussually say this)

"Like you I get very pessimistic about the masses and I simply can't stand their sheople behavior sometimes. But to be honest, I can't blame them considering the education they received. ."

You seem to be a very forgiving person. I am not. I certainly am not forgiving to the sheeple, because of them I will have to make the choice between total slavery,mindcontrol,poisoned food air water and death. Besides - I was raised in the exact same education system as my peers!!SO how can you explain that?While for some of the sheeple the problem is lack of intelligence, for the sheeple I went to school with it is NOT. it is ignorance. did I believe a lot of bullshit?yes - but I always had a bad feeling about the world and was always searching for answers.

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In times past, people used to pass down their country's or their tribe's history orally. IOW, they used to teach history to their children. THAT is what needs to be done- teach history, the proper structuring of society and government, and the values necessary to maintain that just, and vivil society. the relying on government schools to teach children have proved DISASTEROUS to our freedoms."

Exactly. That's why the anunnaki(alien group) had a problem with that oral passing of history from parents to their children. Too much truth was being passed down. So they decided to bring the written word to earth. Of course in many different languages and alphabets/hieroglyphs that people are divided. Do you honestly believe that some smart guy invented the written word? The sheeple would have ridiculed him - or if he got too blatant with change/advancement simply killed him. That's what sheeple do, did and ever will do.More provable of course is that the illuminati invented and developed the school system to indoctrinate the people. In my country you HAVE to go to public school, you get fined and eventually send to prison for homeschooling.

"Despit my pessism about the masses waking up in time to save this country, I still believe there is hope for the masses, but they must FIRST be DE-educated from government school propaganda and they must make certain to pass down these truths to future generations."
Sheeple don't care about the truth what makes you think they care about passing it down from generation to generation. History has already proven that the sheeple do NOT care about truth. I agree that they must be DE-educated and then really educated. BUt that doesn't change their essence. You can force the truth down their throats, you can cook them slowly for the truth, it doesnt matter. Even if they DO know the truth they are still cattle. Only difference is that they are indoctrinated for the truth and freedom instead of lies and tyranny. If you accept the fact that majority of people=sheeples=enemys of independent for eternity which I'm not sure if you really do. Then you ask yourself - WHY did the creator of the universe let it be that way?because he is an evil demiurge trapping the minority of true souls.

"As for YOUR country- I don't know abut that. At least Americans still remember somewhat the ideals that America was founded upon. Europe has seen so much tyranny throughout the centuries it's no shock the fact that an EU occured before an NAU."
If any country has been shocked to death in the 20th century than it certainly is mine. But people should use that as a catalyst for positive change. Instaed they use it as an excuse for apathy.They don't think that the hyperinflation1923 will ever happen again, they don't think that dicatorship will ever happen again. they are very passive and demand help from daddy government - in total ignorance that the government was the problem in 1933-1945. People think that americans are stupid and evil for allowing guns to its citizens in total ignorance that Hitler was a big supporter of gun control and that the only hope against Hitlers SS/SA would have been an armed populace!. The only question I ask myself is - How did I get into this messy universe of Lies, Evil and Ignorance?

surry said...

Vote Ron Paul!!!!