Friday, April 20, 2007

The Tyranny of Tolerance: End.

Greetings Dear Readers!

Let's cut to the chase!



Women, lies, and Planned Parenthood.




The Planned Parenthood vs. Casey Decision that we've been studying notes that:

“Other studies fill in the rest of this troubling picture. Physical violence is only the most visible form of abuse. Psychological abuse, particularly forced social and economic isolation of women, is also common. L. Walker, The Battered [505 U.S. 833, 892] Woman Syndrome 27-28 (1984). Many victims of domestic violence remain with their abusers, perhaps because they perceive no superior alternative. Herbert, Silver, & Ellard, Coping with an Abusive Relationship: I. How and Why do Women Stay?, 53 J. Marriage & the Family 311 (1991). Many abused women who find temporary refuge in shelters return to their husbands, in large part because they have no other source of income. Aguirre, Why Do They Return? Abused Wives in Shelters, 30 J.Nat.Assn. of Social Workers 350, 352 (1985). Returning to one's abuser can be dangerous. Recent Federal Bureau of Investigation statistics disclose that 8.8 percent of all homicide victims in the United States are killed by their spouses. Mercy & Saltzman, Fatal Violence Among Spouses in the United States, 1976-85, 79 Am.J. Public Health 595 (1989). Thirty percent of female homicide victims are killed by their male partners. Domestic Violence: Terrorism in the Home, Hearing before the Subcommittee on Children, Family, Drugs and Alcoholism of the Senate Committee on Labor and Human Resources, 101st Cong., 2d Sess., 3 (1990).”


Really?

So we needed to destroy the Rights of Men, and children, in order to sequester the poor abused women of America?


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To jumpstart Uncle Sam's Harem?

The Supreme Court seemed to think so.

However, in real life, as in dreams, not all is as it seems.

If we look at this insightful piece from MediaRadar.org:

Former Shelter Director Reveals Why She Left

Abuse shelters surround themselves in a shroud of secrecy. On March 10, 2007 RADAR staff interviewed a former abuse shelter director to learn what goes on behind closed doors. The woman requested anonymity because she was fearful of the consequences of disclosing her identity:

I worked at an abuse shelter located in the mid-Atlantic area for over 10 years. I first worked as a counselor and was eventually promoted to the position of shelter director. Our shelter had 8 rooms, with a capacity of up to 30 women and children.

Our shelter received funding from a variety of private and government sources at the federal, state, and local levels. A large share of our budget came from the state Child and Protective Services program to pay for abused children and mothers who resided at our facility.

Our shelter provided a broad range of services, including shelter residency for up to 2 months, 3 meals a day, counseling, advocacy, and transportation to arrange for local services. When necessary, we connected our residents with nearby welfare, immigration, and pro bono legal services. And we provided transitional services for former residents. Counseling was based on Lenore Walker's battered woman syndrome and the Duluth model's power and control wheel.

The shelter did not provide services to male victims of domestic violence, even when the men had suffered physical abuse similar to what women had experienced. Instead the men were referred to a local police station to request a restraining order…

… Most persons think of women in an abuse shelter as victims of severe physical abuse, bloodied and broken. In our shelter, however, only about one in 10 women had experienced any kind of physical injury. A similarly small number had been threatened with any physical harm, although they may have been involved in a previous incident of physical abuse.

So the great majority of women were there because they claimed to have been subjected to verbal or psychological abuse. We did not verify the claims of new residents - if the woman answered the questions correctly, we basically believed what she said. There is no question that some women, many of whom were on welfare, were gaming the system to benefit from the many services our shelter provided.

When I first started working at the shelter, the staff was held accountable to professional standards and services were regularly audited. We shared a feeling of altruism, of helping needy victims. But over the years, I saw a big change.

The shelter became more ideologically oriented. We began to sponsor workshops and training on lesbian issues. Shelter residents who were pregnant were advised of the difficulties of raising a child alone, and were encouraged to get an abortion.

In order to service illegal immigrants, we stopped requesting any form of personal identification. But then you began to wonder who you are really dealing with.

Around the same time, the number of staff increased and employee benefits expanded. I once calculated that the average staff member was away from work 60 days out of the year - 5 weeks on vacation, plus holidays and sick days. After a while it became impossible to have a cohesive staff.

In the end, we would refer the women to other programs, and they would refer clients to us. It became a self-serving numbers game.

The staff became less accountable in their work and began to see their job more as an entitlement. The shelter lost its grass roots appeal and began to feel like an employment center. There was little professionalism or accountability.
That's when I resigned my position as shelter director.”

Hmm. Sounds like there is an epidemic of “violence” alright… enough for the Supreme Court to twist and pervert the Law beyond all recognition?

Hell yah Bud, an' don't you forget it!

But one story does not a trend make. I am sure that our Court knew what it was doing right??

So, in the spirit of tolerance and fairness, let's hear from one of the Founding Mothers of the Battered Women’s shelter movement (who started the women's shelter phenomenon long before this case was decided) :

How feminists tried to destroy the family

Erin Pizzey, founder of the battered wives' refuge, on how militant feminists - with the collusion of Labour's leading women - hijacked her cause and used it to try to demonise all men…

…By the early Seventies, a new movement for women - demanding equality and rights - began to make headlines in the daily newspapers. Among the jargon, I read the words "solidarity" and "support". I passionately believed that women would no longer find themselves isolated from each other, and in the future could unite to change our society for the better.

Within a few days I had the address of a local group in Chiswick, and I was on my way to join the Women's Liberation Movement. I was asked to pay £3 and ten shillings as a joining fee, told to call other women "sisters" and that our meetings were to be called "collectives".

My fascination with this new movement lasted only a few months. At the huge "collectives", I heard shrill women preaching hatred of the family. They said the family was not a safe place for women and children. I was horrified at their virulence and violent tendencies. I stood on the same platforms trying to reason with the leading lights of this new organisation…

… Every day after dropping my children at school, I went to our little house, which we called the Women's Aid. Soon women from all over Chiswick were coming to ask for help. At last we had somewhere women could meet each other and bring their children. My long, lonely days were over.

But then something happened that made me understand that our role was going to be more than just a forum where women could exchange ideas. One day, a lady came in to see us. She took off her jersey, and we saw that she was bruised and swollen across her breasts and back. Her husband had taken a chair leg to her. She looked at me and said: "No one will help me."

For a moment I was somersaulted back in time. I was six years old, standing in front of a teacher at school. My legs were striped and bleeding from a whipping I had received from an ironing cord. "My mother did this to me last night," I said. "No wonder," replied the teacher. "'You're a dreadful child."

No one would help me then and nobody would ever imagine that my beautiful, rich mother - who was married to a diplomat - could be a violent abuser…

… Meanwhile, our little house was packed with women fleeing their violent partners - sometimes as many as 56 mothers and children in four rooms. All had terrible stories, but I recognised almost immediately that not all the women were innocent. Some were as violent as the men, and violent towards their children.

The social workers involved with these women told me I was wasting my time because the women would only return to their partners.

I was determined to try to break the chain of violence. But as the local newspaper picked up the story of our house, I grew worried about a very different threat.
I knew that the radical feminist movement was running out of national support because more sensible women had shunned their anti-male, anti-family agenda. Not only were they looking for a cause, they also wanted money.

In 1974, the women living in my refuge organised a meeting in our local church hall to encourage other groups to open refuges across the country.

We were astonished and frightened that many of the radical lesbian and feminist activists that I had seen in the collectives attended. They began to vote themselves into a national movement across the country

After a stormy argument, I left the hall with my abused mothers - and what I had most feared happened.

In a matter of months, the feminist movement hijacked the domestic violence movement, not just in Britain, but internationally...

… Our grant was given to them and they had a legitimate reason to hate and blame all men. They came out with sweeping statements which were as biased as they were ignorant. "All women are innocent victims of men's violence," they declared.

They opened most of the refuges in the country and banned men from working in them or sitting on their governing committees...

...Yet the feminist refuges continued to create training programmes that described only male violence against women. Slowly, the police and other organisations were brainwashed into ignoring the research that was proving men could also be victims.

Despite attacks in the Press from feminist journalists and threatening anonymous telephone calls, I continued to argue that violence was a learned pattern of behaviour from early childhood…

I believe that the feminist movement envisaged a new Utopia that depended upon destroying family life. In the new century, so their credo ran, the family unit will consist of only women and their children. Fathers are dispensable. And all that was yoked - unforgivably - to the debate about domestic violence.

To my mind, it has never been a gender issue - those exposed to violence in early childhood often grow up to repeat what they have learned, regardless of whether they are girls or boys.

I look back with sadness to my young self and my vision that there could be places where people - men, women and children who have suffered physical and sexual abuse - could find help, and if they were violent could be given a second chance to learn to live peacefully.

I believe that vision was hijacked by vengeful women who have ghetto-ised the refuge movement and used it to persecute men. Surely the time has come to challenge this evil ideology and insist that men take their rightful place in the refuge movement…
Hmm... so even from the beginning, we have anti-male elements involved with battered women's shelter organizations.

Could it be that there is a connection between the corrupt shelters of today, and the blatantly sexist shelters of yesteryear?

Maybe... but you still don't believe me. You still think that the gender apartheid imposed from on high by the Court was justified.

Then check out this extensive collection of articles graciously provided by the Splendid Equal Justice Foundation.

You see, the problem with feminism is that it causes women to believe that their shit don't stank.

Well ladies and gents, I'm here to tell you that all aspects of feminism, including "Battered Women's Shelters" , REEK to High Heaven.

And if one moron with a PC and Google can find all this goodness, you know damn well that Supreme Court law clerks could have found what was really going on in nothing flat.

Even a quick trip to the local library can net the serious researcher tomes and tomes of useless feminasty hat.. er "philosophy."

A reasonable person has to wonder... did SCOTUS decided to discount all evidence of feminist culpability whilst they were deliberating to disbar men from families for all eternity?

Most likely. Kumogakure School doesn't believe in coincidence.

More importanly, Mama didn't raise no fool.

Dear Readers, the totality of this Tyranny of Tolerance series should help you bring things into focus.

In light of the evidence, the motive of the Court becomes crystal clear.

The Philosopher Kings in Black Robes were undoubtedly ratcheting up the JND level of the unsuspecting American populace.

Children lose, Leftists win.

Furthermore, if we take the logic of this decision a step farther...

We see that THE COURT HAS SET THE PRECEDENT FOR DISQUALIFYING THE TIES BETWEEN MOTHER AND CHILD.

If men, who previously had rock-solid rights to their offspring since the dawn of recorded history, can be so easily dismissed on account of biased and discriminatory data, then women can also be summarily dismissed if the Court ever decides to turn its frightening power against THEM.

And of course, if... or should I say, when, that day comes, who will come to their aid?

Divorced Dads?

Eternal Bachelors?

Members of the Kumogakure School?

I wouldn't hold your breath darlings.

Just as women have mostly sat on the sidelines while Men were legally castrated, most men will sit idly by as women weep and wail for their confiscated little ones.

Ain't Karma a bitch??

All that would be needed, under the logic of this ruling, is to cite the readily available data that I have provided in previous Tyranny of Tolerance posts, that show that the newly created class of unmarried/single parent women have the potential to be a clear and present danger to their children.

As a matter of fact, we will be exploring real life examples of government encroachment upon the rights of mothers in my next series.

This isn't a joke. This shit is real.

Moving on.

Judge Dierker summarizes:

“the Casey majority determined that husbands had no marital rights, because some husbands mistreat their wives. And apparently, women are too weak to adhere to an abortion decision if their husbands vigorously oppose it. So presto! Husband-fathers have no reproductive rights. The abortion decision is that of the woman alone, even if she is part of an apparently intact, functioning family. Only she has the “right to choose” to carry to term the child jointly conceived in a relationship that once was the most sacred contract known to the law (Tyranny of Tolerance, p. 59).”
The author continues:

“If we’ve destroyed the evil patriarchal model of the family, what’s next? The cornerstone of the family itself: marriage (p. 59).”
See how this game works? Baby steps along the road to Hell.

Dierker writes:
"Suddenly, the Supreme Court moved from protecting marriage and family as sacred rights to inventing the right of “reproductive freedom.” By the Court’s ruling, contraception became a constitutional right for married people. Then the crusade began for unmarried people… In Anglo-American legal history, no court has ever had to define marriage or order the executive or legislature to make provision in the law for the institution. The institution existed prior to, and independently of, the common law and American constitutional law. It existed (and exists) because men and women exist and have basic natural instincts and functions in the matter of procreation. It existed (and exists) because reason (to say nothing of religion and natural law) compels recognition of a union of a man and a woman as the cornerstone of the family. For centuries, the law recognized the special place occupied by marriage and family, and many legal rights and liabilities are founded on the normal, universal concept of marriage and family (p. 60).”



Enter the Philosopher Kings.



In the good Judge's work, there is a section entitled, “Government of Philosopher Kings.”

We are moving quickly to our vision of the feminist endgame.

His Honor notes that:

“The ongoing judicial assault on traditional marriage and family revels the liberals’ (Cultural Marxists and global elitists) contempt for everything but their own power. That contempt was perfectly expressed in Justice Anthony Kennedy’s penultimate remarks in Lawrence v. Texas:

Had those who drew and ratified the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth Amendment or the Fourteenth Amendment known the components of liberty, in its manifold possibilities, they might have been more specific. They did not presume to have this insight. They knew times can blind us to certain truths and later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress. As the Constitution endures, persons in every generation can invoke its principles in their own search for greater freedom.

Well, if the Founding Fathers did not know what liberty was, they certainly knew what liberty was not. It was not licentiousness. Nor was it “tolerance.” And it certainly was not judicial autocracy, masquerading as enforcement of the Constitution, which was designed to preserve and protect liberty.

In other words, it was not slavery to the whims of five judges who fancy themselves philosopher kings---or queens. Justice Kennedy’s remarks expose the attitude of the illiberal liberals for all to see: The language of the Constitution, the intent of the founding framers and ratifiers, the traditions and usages of our people over unbroken generations—all are irrelevant.

Every generation of judges is entitled to rewrite the Constitution to suit themselves, as long as those judges is entitled to rewrite the Constitution to suit themselves, as long as those judges include five Supreme Court justices. In effect, then, we have no Constitution. Nor do we have a democracy, for the people cannot work their will through the ballot box on any issue that liberal judges decide to write into “their” Constitution. They tyranny of tolerance is complete. The tyranny of tolerance, not the Constitution, is the supreme law of the land. Ozzie and Harriet may not be dead, but the radical liberals (Marxists) are certainly very close to killing them (p. 68).”


Yep, Ozzie and Harriet are pretty much terminal.

There's not much to add to our author's powerful words, so I will stop here.

Please don't forget... MEN HAVE NO FAMILIAL RIGHTS. NONE, ZIP, ZERO.

Consequently... WITH NO RIGHTS, COMES NO RESPONSIBILITY.

Finally... WOMEN ARE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG, IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE. NO ONE IS FREE WHEN OTHERS ARE OPPRESSED, AND BY SACRIFICING THE RIGHTS OF MEN, THEIR OWN RIGHTS ARE MADE MORE FRAGILE.

Alrighty then!

Next time, we begin our series on Plato's The Republic, and see for ourselves what kind of world our Leftist friends seek to bring about.

Don't miss it!

Kumo 9000.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Citing Media Radar's "reports" as good evidence is not the best idea. Here is a fun exercise with only one "report" they have.

In "The Use and Abuse of Restraining Orders"

Citation 2 refers to the claim of "about 85%" while the source notes
"At present, 15 to 20 percent of restraining orders are issued against
women." Not too far off but not accurate either.

Citation 3 refers to " In three-quarters of those cases, the woman had
also summoned the police." In fact the source notes "69.7%¶ of women
who received police assistance for IPV also obtained a restraining
order against an IP." I understand rounding the 33.8% figure to 34%
but to change 69.7% to 3/4 is not correct, nor is it prefaced with
"about" as in the first case. "About" should only appear when the
true figure is not known or there is marginal rounding.

Citation 5 refers to "in Oregon, merely claiming a "fear" of violence
is considered grounds for issuance of the order." In fact this is not
what even the source says, it states, "put you in fear of serious
bodily injury." Fear of violence, rather than serious bodily injury,
is a much lower bar to achieve and there is no way this was not taken
out of context intentionally.

Citation 7 refers to "A New Jersey woman repeatedly voiced her
disapproval of her estranged husband's new-found romantic interest,
which resulted in the imposition of a
restraining order on her. When she later called the new girlfriend a "slut,"
that was ruled to be a violation of the restraining order. She was
sentenced to
6 months probation and community service." In fact your own footnote
shows that the "unfortunate" case of this woman's victimization was
"reversed." Burying obviously relevant information in a footnote is
universally held to be dishonest.

Citation 8 refers to "goes on to exclude any "act of self-defense"
from its definition. Thus, if one party made a remark that caused any
sort of mental harm, the second party could presumably retaliate with
legal immunity." The definition does exclude "acts of self-defense"
but in no way does this provide "immunity" to the other party. Even
disregarding that no immunity is implied here, the obvious alternative
would create a legal barrier for people defending themselves,
something the author ignores.

Citation 9 refers to "The Sacramento Superior Court's website
instructs TRO applicants as follows:

'Please present the completed domestic violence forms to the Family Law
Filing Window in Room 100 of the William R. Ridgeway Family Relations
Courthouse. The clerk will conduct a mini-interview with you to clarify your
request and to ensure that you filled out the forms correctly.'"

Other than citing absurd mundane instructions this ignores the rest of
the context which goes on to state, "If your request is granted, a
hearing will be set for you and the other party. It is your
responsibility to have other person personally served. Proof of
service for the other person must be presented and filed with court
prior to or at the time of the Domestic Violence Restraining Order
hearing." Though this is still a simple proceedure it is vastly
different from what the author implies from this source.

Citation 11 refers to an exact quote and cites both a document and a
website but does not specify a page number out of the 33 page long
document on which one may find the quote. A Google search for the
quote produces it, but the citation should read with the page number
on which to find the quote, if the electronic source is used there
would obviously be no page number to reference.

Citation 13 from the Heleniak "Star Chamber" source also lacks a page
number with which to find the quote, and "ibid" is not used when other
citations stand between the referenced previous citation. Ibid should
be replaced with the page number of the quote.

Citation 14 quotes what appears to be a journalistic account, but
indeed the source is from editorial commentary. With ample ability to
cite journalistic accounts this is brash dishonesty. A simple Google
search of his name produces several articles.

Which state along with the information in the commentary cited that,
"LEWIS BARBER had three drunk driving convictions on file at the
Alexandria Courthouse. In 1998, the court ordered a habitual offender
evaluation in which the court-appointed addictions counselor
determined that Barber had an "anger problem," and that drinking
caused him to have "two different personalities." Another counselor
examined Barber and determined that he "may be suffering from 'dry
drunk' syndrome — his body language presented a depressed individual."

Also "Lewis does not know," she wrote in an affidavit to support the
protective order. "Our son will not be there Sat. morning when I tell
him. There are weapons in the house and I know Lewis will start
drinking heavily. Lewis is a very quiet man and very unpredictable."

Nobody can know all the facts but both sides would be nice if you
respect your audience enough to be truthful.

Citation 15 refers to the factual claim that "The analysis found that 34%
of requests from men were deferred or turned down, compared to only
10% of requests
from women." The author also claims to extrapolate this data as if
the bias is "borne out by research." It is unclear in the claim what
"get a restraining order" means but to be fair even at the lowest bar
of the ex-parte the bar chart clearly shows that 23% of requests from
men were deferred with 5% of the women's claims being deferred. If
the measure is a permanent order the lower chart clearly shows 19%
denied for men vs. 2% for women.

Citation 20 refers to a quote that is obviously lifted from a magazine
account of a larger more scholarly work. Not only does the link not
work, but again when quoting one is required to provide a page number.
But knowing that the author has indeed never touched the "cited" source
and simply lifted the citation from a webmag it is impossible to know
if the "quote" is a paraphrase from the magazine or a direct quote
from the scholarly work.

Citation 21 quotes a webpage of a "Washington State attorney" stating
it, "gives this disturbing advice with regard to domestic violence:
"Don't call 911 unless you are bleeding and she still has a weapon in
her hand. Too many men who have called 911 for help have ended up
being arrested for DV"

What the author does not
bother to note is what is in the introduction page of the website,
"Lisa hopes you enjoy the humor, satire, absurdity, and occasional
seriousness contained on this site." This citation should not even
appear in a report as there is no substantiation even from the cited
author if this is "real" advice "humor" or "absurdity." It is not
certain though that it is "disturbing advice."

Citation 22 refers to this statement, "Allegations of abuse and
restraining orders are often used as "part of the gamesmanship of
divorce.'" This is a clear example of intentional deception or given
the benefit of the doubt, lazy research.

The actual claim is supported by the title of an article from which
the quote comes from. "Orders of protection are designed to prevent
domestic violence, but they can also become part of the gamesmanship
of divorce." You will note that your author has used the word
"often" while the source says "can." There is abolutely no
demographic of statistical information in the quote or source to
support "often" as used by the author. More than likely it is "often"
as this is a vague term, but find something by which to substantiate
it.

Citation 23 refers to this claim, "Indeed, divorce attorneys have been
known to offer to drop the allegation of abuse in exchange for
financial concessions." This assertion refers to this in the article
as it only logically could.

"There are stories of attorneys explicitly offering to have
restraining orders dropped in exchange for financial concessions.
Friend says that this has happened to her on two occasions; but she
believes that more discreet negotiations are actually far more
common."

Absolutely zero confirmation is given of this one person assertion.
Should not be that hard to find some.

Citation 24 refers to "The Illinois Domestic Violence Act's definition
of domestic violence encompasses any type of "emotional distress."

A simple reading of the source provides yet the most dishonest
citation yet, again your author claims "any type of 'emotional
distress'"

The source says: would cause a reasonable person emotional distress;
and does cause emotional distress to the petitioner. Unless the
presumption is rebutted by a preponderance of the evidence, the
following types of conduct shall be presumed to cause emotional
distress:
(i) creating a disturbance at petitioner's place of employment or school;
(ii) repeatedly telephoning petitioner's place of employment, home or
residence;
(iii) repeatedly following petitioner about in a public place or places;
(iv) repeatedly keeping petitioner under surveillance by remaining
present outside his or her home, school, place of employment, vehicle
or other place occupied by petitioner or by peering in petitioner's
windows;
(v) improperly concealing a minor child from petitioner, repeatedly
threatening to improperly remove a minor child of petitioner's from
the jurisdiction or from the physical care of petitioner, repeatedly
threatening to conceal a minor child from petitioner, or making a
single such threat following an actual or attempted improper removal
or concealment, unless respondent was fleeing an incident or pattern
of domestic violence; or
(vi) threatening physical force, confinement or restraint on one or
more occasions.

This is obviously misleading. If further court cases have expanded
the meaning they should be given with the conditions under which they
were made.

Citation 25 This is Wikipedia and though the state is correct and the
reading of the text is correct, the case numbers are blocked so there is
no way for your author to know the nature of the actual claim. One
can note a vague term here, but one cannot claim to be the judge of
this case as your author implies by condemning it in context.

Citation 31 refers to "domestic violence has become whatever the woman
wants to allege, with or without evidence." The source uses as its
citation "A Justice Department-funded document published by the
National Victim Assistance Academy" but gives no verifiable complete
citation. This is called citing a vague source. Not to mention this
source's complete lack of citations itself.

Citation 32 cites accurate sources but places the footnote too soon as
it goes on to repeat FBI statistics without citation that actually
appear in citation 32.

Citation 34 leads to a large report of which it could easily give
pages numbers, but again the author has left that information out.
Unless they have aggregated some of the numbers from multiple pages
and done the calculations themself. I doubt that to be the case.

Citation 37 refers to, "Dorothy Wright, a New Jersey attorney and
former board member of a women's shelter, has estimated that 40%–50%
of all restraining orders are requested purely as a legal maneuver."
This estimation is not even claimed to be on any verifiable basis
other than her "belief." For someone dealing so heavily with the
issue of evidence and not simply guilt by a simple claim it is
dishonest to place this in a report. Find some real statistics that
are verifiable. Further the article cited at least gives the claims
from the opposition but those are ignored in the interest distortion.


Some of these are contention on my part based on an assumption that
this is supposed to be as scholarly as possible. Other citations are
obvious in their intent. If these are the core of your advocacy I
would fix them in case the media ever fact checks. I will leave you
to check your other reports.

Hopefully, these are all honest mistakes. For an organization with
accuracy in its name though it should be of the utmost importance to
be, indeed, accurate.

Kirigakure said...

Anon 11:15PM;

Nice job! I commend you for taking the time and the effort to examine the report in question.

A post of this magnitude deserves a detailed response.

However, I have one request before I do so.

Tell me your name, or your "handle".

I like to have the names of my adversaries, and Anon just doesn't it do it for me.

It's the honorable thing to do no?

Kumogakure.

Unknown said...

Kudos on your inclusion of the relationship between rights and responsibilities.

Kirigakure said...

Thanks Itrand!

It's quite basic really.

And we are seeing that more and more, as Men independently come to the conclusion that marriage and all that simply isn't worth the risk.

If the powers that be want us to assume the responsibility... they'd better make it damn worth our while!

Have a good one.

. said...

Great post, Kumo!

I would like to add, but I'm tapped out, you said what I am thinking beautifully!

BTW, I don't know if I told you before, but I also take care of a Library under the MGTOW name. See the link here:

http://menforjustice.net/library/

I have been trying to divide the plentitude of subjects, and if relevant, to include a "Research & Data Sections" which includes Research Papers, Studies and whatnot.

It is somewhat haphazard still, but I hope that one day it will turn into a useful research resource.

At any rate, great piece, I enjoyed reading it.

Bang on, brother,

Rob